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    Posted: 12 March 2009 at 4:35am
....and all that pip-spittin'
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Originally posted by AlaskaMAn

     So why couldn't  they do the same with tomato's or arugella?  
 
Tomato's are too hard to roll up & smoke...
 
 
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So the feds are going to hire more bureaucrats to come inspect every farm? What constitutes a farm? If somebody has a backyard garden and decides to sell some excess produce, does that trigger federal inspection?
I seriously doubt the feds have the time or inclination to inspect every "food production facility."
I have a state nursery inspection certificate, required so I can sell plants and flowers at farmers market. This will be the third year I have had such, and I have yet to have a state inspector visit my property. I have only seen one inspector, one time, at a farmers market. So even if this bill passes, which doesn't seem likely in the midst of everything else that's going on, I don't think the inspectors are going to be invading every garden.
As for "fear mongering," it does seem to me that some regulations unfairly target small growers/producers. It seems like the agribusiness lobbyists would like to put small growers out of business. This just doesn't make sense to me, especially in today's economy.
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Posts: 6496 		  Quote alancoll Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 March 2009 at 2:37am
......Trev's USDA Approved Medicinal Vegetables......shredded carrot bong? Where do I order??
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Oh, and my 2 cents on the topic at hand: If a US food inspector tried to enter my homestead, even if I am selling to the public in a market garden, I'll tell them to go home and send an RCMP with a warrant.  If my intention is to production farm to export to the US, I'd welcome a US food inspector.  I don't know any other way to get the 'USDA Inspected' sticker. Wink
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Posts: 6959 		  Quote PrairieFarmer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 March 2009 at 11:03pm
Originally posted by sasquatch06

Next thing posted will be that next year we,ll have to get a license plate and safety inspection each year on our tillers.
Oh, also forgot Emissions tests also.


Around here, I am supposed to get a licence plate on my snowmobile before I can ride it on crown land or groomed trails.  $40 of the fee is to cover grooming of the trails, the rest is liability.  I wouldn't mind paying the liability, but I'll be damned if I am going to subsidize trails that I am never going to ride on.  I'd rather pay $10 per day trail fee or $40 week pass than automatically pay the fee just for the priviledge of sledding in the ditches alongside gravel roads.
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Rob:  I've been there.  The bank actually doesn't want your house, they want their books to look good.   If they do wind up with your house, they'll try to unload it on anyone. 

They have examiners coming around asking what's being done about... well you...
What you need to do is to show them a way that you can make repayment.  Do this in person, people have a lot more trouble telling you "no" when they have to look you in the eyes.
You need to show them a workable plan.  Maybe something that will cover the interest only for a while, then start to reduce the principal again some time in the reasonable future would be a good bet.

Don't threaten, complain or wail.  Show them that you're a reasonable person (just like them - you want them to sympathize with you). 

If this is your primary residence, and on an acre or less, I believe a bankruptcy court will help you to stay there, so that's the threat you have, but don't say that out loud, just let it be assumed.

I don't know about what the administration's passed so far, but I believe that what I've heard to date only covers notes held by Fannie and Freddie. 



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A lot farther than somebody's imagination.
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Posts: 821 		  Quote Sweethearts Mom Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 March 2009 at 9:46pm
forgive me but I stopped reading on the front page...seriously. for all who support the new administration...are you really ready to support some bills which take chunks out of our freedom like food production??? Really??? How far would you like it to go before you admit we who value our freedom got screwed? like on my other post....are you for the smart grid too?
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Originally posted by BillyGee33

   Is anyone familiar with this? http://www.gazetteonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090228/BUSINESS/702289950/1007
 
   It would appear that there is a provision in the "Clean Air Act" that the EPA is planning on enforcing on the farmers to keep the dust down when they harvest thier crops.
 
   I wonder how long it will be before they come after the homesteaders and gardeners with thier garden tillers?

They already are since the carb act's of the 90's the EPA has had its hand in the outdoor power equipment realm most times and you won’t hear me say this often with "good results"

The only problem I have seen is the rebuilding of the old engines that power our tillers, tractors and such. some of the pre 70's Briggs and Stratton’s engines you can no longer get internal parts for and kohler is doing the same thing even to include the magnum and k series engines (the ones that made kohler) sure you can get a flywheel key or a plug but try to order a head or a rod and you may as well start looking at a new engine. I have been to countless schools to keep my training current and if I was to let a dirty engine out of the shop with out having the customer sign a wavier that he don’t want me to fix it right I can be fined once the customer signs it its his quarter. This of course has never happened but it can
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