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   <title>General Homesteading : Robby and Kezzie</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://forums.homestead.org/member_profile.asp?PF=213" rel="nofollow">lunamother</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Robby and Kezzie<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 12 October 2008 at 8:39pm<br /><br />awwww.....I can't wait to hear stories about how Robby's not housebroken and Kezzie's into everything....<br><br>....wait- we hear those stories NOW<img src="http://forums.homestead.org/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" alt="LOL" /><br>]]>
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   <title>General Homesteading : Robby and Kezzie</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://forums.homestead.org/member_profile.asp?PF=766" rel="nofollow">herbgrower</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Robby and Kezzie<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 12 October 2008 at 8:33pm<br /><br />Now that's what you call adorable!<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Herbs</DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 20:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Livestock, Pets and Wildlife : Prevention of Equine Cruelty Act of 2008</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://forums.homestead.org/member_profile.asp?PF=3146" rel="nofollow">sawman65</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Prevention of Equine Cruelty Act of 2008<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 12 October 2008 at 8:31pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by urban cowgirl</strong></em><br /><br /><P>I am all for the horses, or any other livestock, but this is ridiculous.&nbsp; There are so many horses out there who are being turned loose or being allowed to starve to death because nobody wants them now.&nbsp;&nbsp;The bill did nothing for the horses although they think they did.&nbsp; There are a number of people I talk to on other forums who are all for the bill.&nbsp;&nbsp;The problem is backyard breeders.&nbsp; They are pumping out horses each year that don't sell.&nbsp; These horses end up skinney, malnourished, wormy, diseased, set free, etc to make room for "next years brood".&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Horses aren't treated humanely from evidence that I have seen of slaughter houses, but instead of shutting them down, why don't they put bylaws in place to make sure that these animals ARE treated humanely?&nbsp; </P><DIV></DIV>People view their horses more as pets (me included) then livestock.&nbsp; I would never eat my horses, when they die, I bury them.&nbsp; Some might call it wasteful, I don't care.&nbsp; That's how it is.&nbsp; If someone wants to send their old, lame, wild, whatever horse to the meat man, that's their own personal choice.&nbsp; It's just one more way for the gov't to be in your back pocket telling you what you can &amp; can't do with your own livestock.&nbsp; <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>The bill is a bad thing.&nbsp; Backyard breeders are bad things too, and until people quit breeding crap with crap &amp; producing crap, there's going to be a awful market for horses &amp; it's just going to get worse now.&nbsp; You should have to have a licence to breed horses....any animals.&nbsp; </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Just my rant.&nbsp; QUIT BREEDING HORSES &amp; THEN THERE WILL BE LESS UNWANTED HORSES IN THE WORLD.&nbsp; Until that happens, this is NOT going to get any better.</DIV></td></tr></table> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>man i am gona step short on part of that post i dont think you should have a licence to breed your livestock. if you sell them then yes but what about the guy that barters a horse for say some pigs or dogs? heck i got a billy goat that is allready traded to a neighbor for some pigs and he wont be born till next year.&nbsp;see there is a fine line here and it was crossed with the kill bill.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;here is a few links as to what the hsus is up to</DIV><DIV><a href="http://www.activistcash.com/organizati&#111;n_overview.cfm/oid/136" target="_blank">http://www.activistcash.com/organization_overview.cfm/oid/136</A></DIV><DIV><a href="http://www.animalscam.com/" target="_blank">http://www.animalscam.com/</A></DIV><DIV><a href="http://www.ussportsmen.org/Page.aspx?pid=190&amp;txtSearch=HSUS" target="_blank">http://www.ussportsmen.org/Page.aspx?pid=190&amp;txtSearch=HSUS</A></DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 20:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Civilized Discourse : Cindy McCain on PTSD</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://forums.homestead.org/member_profile.asp?PF=2527" rel="nofollow">Snuffy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Cindy McCain on PTSD<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 12 October 2008 at 8:31pm<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by LodeStar</strong></em><br /><br />fay...I think your husband, snuffy and I could have a great pow-wow around a campfire...brothers in arms.</td></tr></table> <br /><br />I think that would be good.]]>
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   <pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 20:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Raising Kids in the Country : Large Families</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://forums.homestead.org/member_profile.asp?PF=1853" rel="nofollow">sasquatch06</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Large Families<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 12 October 2008 at 8:22pm<br /><br /> Kevin, Not at all, if you adopt them or take in Foster kids.<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I know in your,e area there,s a shortage of foster parents.]]>
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   <pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 20:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>General Homesteading : shtf exercise...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://forums.homestead.org/member_profile.asp?PF=3808" rel="nofollow">TheMartianChick</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> shtf exercise...<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 12 October 2008 at 8:22pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Wings</strong></em><br /><br />I hadn't thought of getting things to barter.&nbsp; Considering the smokers around me, after seeing how they are after 3 or 4 hours without a cigarette, grabbing some cartons of cigarettes might be a good idea!!</td></tr></table> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I've got that one covered... I grew tobacco in my garden this year. I got the seed from the Seeds of Change catalog.</DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 20:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>What's for Dinner? : Wood Cook Stove</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://forums.homestead.org/member_profile.asp?PF=1853" rel="nofollow">sasquatch06</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Wood Cook Stove<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 12 October 2008 at 8:19pm<br /><br /> The Amish Cookstoves are the best built i,ve seen.<br /><br /> Here they,re called "Pioneer Maid".<br />  The same stove in the US has a different name that i cannot remember just now.]]>
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   <pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 20:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>General Homesteading : shtf exercise...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://forums.homestead.org/member_profile.asp?PF=85" rel="nofollow">LodeStar</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> shtf exercise...<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 12 October 2008 at 8:18pm<br /><br />It's a green tip (of my finger) when I eat a lot of chlorella and seaweed...<br /><br />Just doing my part to save the environment.  <img src="http://forums.homestead.org/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0" align="middle" /> ]]>
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   <pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 20:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Civilized Discourse : Cindy McCain on PTSD</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://forums.homestead.org/member_profile.asp?PF=85" rel="nofollow">LodeStar</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Cindy McCain on PTSD<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 12 October 2008 at 8:15pm<br /><br /><a href="http://www.vetvoice.com/userDiary.do?pers&#111;nId=4" target="_blank">http://www.vetvoice.com/userDiary.do?personId=4</a><br /><a href="http://www.vetvoice.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1973" target="_blank">http://www.vetvoice.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1973</a><br /><a href="http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Vets_for_Freedom" target="_blank">http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Vets_for_Freedom</a><br /><a href="http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/05/30/media-pressure-forces-lieberman-and-graham-to-leave-anti-obama-527/" target="_blank">http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/05/30/media-pressure-forces-lieberman-and-graham-to-leave-anti-obama-527/</a><br /><br />From Brandon Friedman at Vet Voice:<br />When the non-partisan Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America (IAVA) released their newest Congressional Report Card, they gave John McCain a "D." It's because--as we've shown--he votes against veterans. Amusingly enough, it seems the pro-Bush/McCain group, Vets for Freedom, got their feelings hurt over this. And they felt they had to do something.<br />That's why, today, Vets for Freedom issued a skewed response to IAVA's Report Card in the form of a "Senate Analysis." In their "analysis," they graded each U.S. senator in a similar fashion, awarding grades of "A" through "F." Amazingly enough, VFF gave every single Democratic senator a grade of "F." Go figure. I'm sure their Republican membership will be pleased. But given the situation in which they found themselves (with IAVA and VoteVets on cable TV slamming both McCain's grade and his lack of support for veterans), I guess it's to be expected. I don't hold that against them. Read on...(at first link)<br />Of course, this is a transparent, politically motivated joke. This neocon-backed group gave failing grades to the likes of Chuck Hagel and Jim Webb, both decorated war veterans and co-sponsors of the recent Webb-Hagel-Lautenberg-Warner GI Bill (the one McCain opposed)-- but it shouldn't come as a surprise. McCain backers Joe Lieberman and Lindsay Graham were on the board of "Vets For Freedom," but were forced to resign their positions because it violated federal election law.<br /><br /><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by LodeStar - Today at 8:16pm</span>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 20:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>What's for Dinner? : Wood Cook Stove</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://forums.homestead.org/member_profile.asp?PF=2774" rel="nofollow">captndiet</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Wood Cook Stove<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 12 October 2008 at 8:13pm<br /><br /><P>Can anyone make a recommendation on wood cookstoves?</P><DIV></DIV>I am leary of old stoves due to safety and wood consumption, so if any of you have used a newer model I'd like to hear about it.<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Thanks</DIV><DIV>Jeff</DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 20:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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